tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post4704945584658074970..comments2023-07-23T06:42:12.346-06:00Comments on My Paint Box: Value Board - Subtle Grays are not MudFrank Gardnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02011564146411771531noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-32433264660056161452008-08-11T10:51:00.000-05:002008-08-11T10:51:00.000-05:00Hi Solveg. I have no knowledge of a different syst...Hi Solveg. I have no knowledge of a different system of organizing color. But I am no expert.<BR/>Practice makes perfect, or at least better.<BR/>You could use youtube, or a blog with video clips or ustreamtv. <BR/>I know nothing about that either, but I have seen it put to good use.Frank Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02011564146411771531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-24096573682511120772008-08-10T22:03:00.000-05:002008-08-10T22:03:00.000-05:00Well......color. I was wondering, just now, wheth...Well......color. I was wondering, just now, whether other world cultures organize color the way "we" do - primary, secondary, complimentary; hue, intensity, etc.<BR/><BR/>Music/sound - the wave spectrum perceived by human ears - is NOT organized the same, worldwide. It's a fascinating study, actually, the way so-called western music is calibrated and organized. I'd never thought about the possibility that color is also not universally organized the same way. Do you know? <BR/><BR/>Solveg<BR/><BR/>p.s. i'm actually "practicing" - trying to simply do it daily, as my "work"......so back to "work". i wish there were a way to put it on a blog, like you all do....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-341201537985331452008-01-25T11:00:00.000-06:002008-01-25T11:00:00.000-06:00I'm so glad that you found this useful Mary. I'll ...I'm so glad that you found this useful Mary. I'll post more stuff on color and mixing soon.Frank Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02011564146411771531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-22313183116738463802008-01-25T10:30:00.000-06:002008-01-25T10:30:00.000-06:00This hits a painter viscerally!Look at all those i...This hits a painter viscerally!<BR/>Look at all those incredibly vibrant grays. Thanks for explaining your process.Mary Sheehan Winnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07739304038978908921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-54419649780140022972008-01-21T21:08:00.000-06:002008-01-21T21:08:00.000-06:00Thanks for the comment Jason.Thanks for the comment Jason.Frank Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02011564146411771531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-70116218710697244722008-01-21T13:37:00.000-06:002008-01-21T13:37:00.000-06:00Grey-t post, Frank.Grey-t post, Frank.Jason Waskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14980929709727586080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-70244266012898588692008-01-21T09:55:00.000-06:002008-01-21T09:55:00.000-06:00Hope it was useful to you Eric. It is a fun way to...Hope it was useful to you Eric. It is a fun way to learn about grays.Frank Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02011564146411771531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-27888642132148686792008-01-21T08:57:00.000-06:002008-01-21T08:57:00.000-06:00Thanks for this Frank. Really interesting, I've be...Thanks for this Frank. Really interesting, I've been thinking about colour lately and trying to grey down my stuff a bit.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15375615378259386972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-27171509891705759092008-01-19T22:37:00.000-06:002008-01-19T22:37:00.000-06:00Hi Barb, I've worked with that "Soup" method befor...Hi Barb, I've worked with that "Soup" method before , but in a slightly different way. Not such a neutral soup. <BR/>Working with a limited palette creates the harmony just the same if you mix properly.<BR/>Edgar Payne talks about the "Soup" in his book "Composition of Outdoor Painting". It is one of the books I recomend to students in my workshops. He talks about landscape, but the ideas he puts out would translate to your still life work as well.<BR/>I'll post my recommended reading list next week.Frank Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02011564146411771531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-90338768620478408962008-01-19T22:25:00.000-06:002008-01-19T22:25:00.000-06:00I love mixing grays Ambera. They are so important ...I love mixing grays Ambera. They are so important to creating harmony and light effects in a painting. <BR/>Hang it on your wall huh? Now THAT is a compliment.Frank Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02011564146411771531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-73188849055512568102008-01-19T22:20:00.000-06:002008-01-19T22:20:00.000-06:00Thanks Marc. I would have to add that I would call...Thanks Marc. I would have to add that I would call a color MUD if it just has just been mixed and pushed and pushed some more so much that the color is just dead beat out of it. Then it is time to wipe it off the palette or painting and re mix a fresh one.Frank Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02011564146411771531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-15627571737874656192008-01-19T20:19:00.000-06:002008-01-19T20:19:00.000-06:00Thank you for the lesson in grays. I took a worksh...Thank you for the lesson in grays. I took a workshop last summer and the artist teaching it worked with a "soup" as he called it. He mixed it a certain way. We would look out in the landscape, pick one of the primary colors we see the most, say red then mix yellow and blue and make green. Then mix green and red half and half then add enough white to take it to a value 5. You add it to everything in your painting. It's a colorful soup not just mud. It does make your painting more uniform. I need to start using it again maybe it would help. Take care, BarbBarbara Paskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02236804963054766302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-3760010738741956572008-01-19T15:45:00.000-06:002008-01-19T15:45:00.000-06:00I love your gray palette pictures! I would hang t...I love your gray palette pictures! I would hang that on the wall in an instant. One of the most valuable things I've learned in school so far is how to mix a neutral gray with compliments. There's such a huge range of gorgeous grays, and it takes great skill to find the one you want. Some of my most favorite paintings are those that have achieved a gray that enhances all the other colours around it.Amberahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16110306327335390517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398982987918743636.post-45566689904239720252008-01-19T09:08:00.000-06:002008-01-19T09:08:00.000-06:00Here, here!!! I hate and refuse to acknowledge th...Here, here!!! I hate and refuse to acknowledge that word....MUD. Okay, I shouldn't hate anything my mom always said. But it's a much misused term that isn't really even applicable in painting. <BR/><BR/>This is good stuff Frank. Your board looks just like my old Munsell Color swatch charts from art school. That is so beautiful, those grays.Marc R. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859686494237856198noreply@blogger.com